Restaurants
Eating out! This is a declaration everybody likes to hear. It was indeed a rare thing for my family to spend a red cent at restaurants, soda bars, or even lunch counters. It was a special time and that usually resulted in memories. One of those special evenings we were going to visit a new place of business in town! Yes, there would be food, but not in the usual sense. You see, there was a new ice cream store opening on Madison just around the corner from our house. Situated between the Cyprus Inn and Simpson’s Gulf Station, it was a small, white building with a sign that resembled a swirly ice cream cone. The menu included all kinds of things that included what was to become my favorite, one that was dipped into some waxy chocolate that covered the treat below! When we got there we discovered others had the same idea and were standing in a long line to get their turn. Some were getting crushed nuts sprinkled on their cone, but others ordered up a banana split, a milk shake, or all kinds of wonderful faire.
While their prices weren’t exceptionally cheap, it was sooooo satisfying to hold the cone and lick the runoff before it ran down onto our hands. It took experience to learn to discover that a napkin would protect hands and clothing. I loved that chocolate-dipped cone with its waxy texture. Once the chocolate cracked like a frozen river or lake as the weather warmed, I licked up the pieces that were floating on the already melting cream. I would often bite off the little curl on top but after a while that seemed to accelerate the melting process. I vowed to not do that because I wanted the cone to last as long as possible. I had to be certain none of the thin chocolate fell away. Catching it on my tongue was half the fun. Enjoying the heavenly taste was the other half. I stopped by this place from time to time, often buying a milkshake I had looked forward to buy. Mowing someone’s grass would give me the funds needed to revisit and pick my flavor of what some called ‘custard.’
About the time I had left grade school for the seventh or eighth grade another place opened on the corner of Madison and Lock Avenue, just across from the post office. While their menu has grown over the years and an indoor dining area has been added, it still reminds me of the many times I met friends there during my high school years. They were the first legitimate ‘drive through’ in the area. At the time Dee’s opened one could drive a car around the building and be waited on by ‘car hops.’ When your order was served they would hook a tray to the drivers-side window that held the drinks, hamburgers, and onion rings. Yum!
Not only was the food good, but we got to see all our friends. It was the ‘thing’ to see and be seen at Dee’s. Some of the practices of the day ceased when the dining area was added because one could no longer drive around the business. It did mean a walkup customer could sit down and enjoy a meal regardless of weather conditions. Many times adults would eat inside while the younger gang stayed in their cars. One could visit friends and catch up on the local teen news.
I remember May 26, 1960, my graduation date, that once the ceremonies were finished I had run home and changed into regular clothes so I could see my fellow graduates at Dee’s. Some partied late into the night, some had dates, and some just peeled off to be alone, thinking about how life had already begun to change. We were being thrust into a new phase in our lives. Insecurities piled up while we were thinking about survival. For me, another one of Dee’s burgers was the best short-term answer. I was and remain thankful for Dee’s. I still stop in when I’m in town. It’s a tradition.
There was no shortage of places to eat in those days. The drug stores and sundry stores had soda fountains and served sandwiches of various types. Tuna, egg salad, chicken salad, and pimento cheese were common. The dime store had a full-service lunch counter that fried burgers, but also had meals such as hamburger steak, chuck wagon steak, and some tasty desserts. Pies and cakes were baked right there, and an occasional ‘special’ would delight the lunch crowds. The poolrooms including Elkins and Buttermilk had meals. I recall that Elkins had meatloaf that was a popular favorite. They also had a salmon casserole made by the long-term cook that everyone enjoyed.
The reputed classiest restaurant during the forties and fifties was Rip’s. They had a gaggle of waitresses wearing uniforms complete with a head-covering not too unlike nurse’s caps. Our waitress took our order by writing it down in a little book she carried. The ladies looked every bit the part and were careful to portray a professional image. Eating there was a treat.
While Rips had a large jute box that sometimes had a line of people waiting, each of the booths also had a tune selection station. You could feed in your coins and select a song without ever leaving the table! We’d hear Marty Robbins singing “A White Sport Coat and a Pink Carnation,” many times before our meal was finished.
My friend and classmate Delbert Caudill wrote me saying: “There was a choice of The Hamburger Inn, Rip’s, or another restaurant across the street by Buttermilk’s Pool Room of which I can’t recall the name (Nell’s). Of those I thought Rip’s was the best. I can remember the taste of their hamburgers. I don’t know what it was that made them so special, but they were far and away better than anything available today. It may have been that the meat was fresh, the tomatoes and lettuce were fresh, or that they were just something exotic to my taste buds that were used to salt pork, chicken, or vegetables at home. I loved them.”
Another friend wrote me and said: “I remember Dee’s Drive In and their famous frozen cokes and foot-long hotdogs, enjoying ‘real’ milkshakes at the Favorite 5 and Dime, at Ed Land’s Sundry and their cherry cokes. I remember dancing at Nell’s Ranch House across the street from Rip’s. I loved Rip’s ‘transparent pie” and in all my cookbooks, I have never found a recipe for that pie. One day I hope to find the recipe, bake that wonderful pie, and then eat the whole thing!”
(Here’s a recipe I found on the web: https://hiphome.blogspot.com/2012/05/kentucky-transparent-pie.html . The title makes me think it may be close to what Rip’s served.)
Out toward the edge of town before you get to ‘dead man’s curve,’ sat the Flat Top Inn, a restaurant that was popular with the teens. They had decent food and lots of pin ball machines and other kinds of games. When skating sessions were over next door I occasionally stopped by the Fat Top for a soft drink or a game. I remember a game that had a flat disk that you would slide toward a long, polished track toward something looking much like pictures of bowling pins. The machine would measure electronically and give you a score. One night when I dropped in they had a contest going for highest score in a given week on that machine. While I didn’t care about winning that, I joined in and played my game. As it happened things went very well and I established a high score. I knew the next player would beat me so I left only to get a phone call a week later. I had won!
I remember that out to Lowmansville there was a restaurant named, “The Kentuckian.” I went by there a number of times in my last years in high school. The food was good and the place was neat and clean. At some point Mrs. Ed Bradley, a former owner of one of the Bradley Grocery Stores, bought the Kentuckian. I was surprised when I made a visit home from the service and saw her at this restaurant. We chatted politely before I ordered my meal.
At the north end of town, just across the tracks from the VanHoose home, a new motel was constructed that included a fancy, new restaurant that served good food. They also had room for a party or private receptions, so it soon became very popular in town. My high school class once held a reunion there. Re-bonding over a good meal with classmates brought back some good memories. Sadly, it turned out to be the last time I was to see some. A few quit coming, some moved far away, and others passed away.
West Virginia was wet during those days while Lawrence County was dry. Many folks from Louisa would travel across the bridge and pick up beer and other drinks from several small ‘bars’ near the Fort Gay, WV, train station. I went over to Fort Gay to buy a few of my favorite ginger ale that was only sold over there. I had gotten used to it the times I visited Detroit, MI. Vernor’s outsold other leading soft drinks at Tiger Stadium and the various restaurants in that area and is still popular there, today. Out near the Fort Gay High School there was another restaurant that a number of teens from Louisa visited. This was a large, older building, but had a space suitable for dancing. I have no idea what their menu was like, but the juke box played on and kids acted as if they were on American Bandstand, a TV program piped out from Philadelphia across the television network. It was there that I heard Little Richard, Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, Marty Robbins, and other stars of the day. Teresa Brewer sang about ‘Put another nickel in, In the nickelodeon, All I want is having you and music, music, music. ’ Many kids followed suit enhanced by the music, dancing, and soft drinks.
If you had the money and the time there was no shortage of places to grab a quick bite or have a wonderful meal. There was also a lure to travel to Huntington to Bailey’s Cafeteria, or to Shoney’s Big Boy. That whopping sandwich with its secret sauce, was the beginning of those oversized burgers that have developed into many two-fisted treats we see in the sports-bars all around the nation. Some boast you can’t eat the whole thing. Well, shouldn’t anyway. mcoburncppo@aol.com
What can you find out about Scotty’s? My grand mother Betty Branham was a manager there at one time. I remember vaguely going there in the early 70’s. It sat near where the City National Bank is today.
Because I left town prior to the dates you mentioned, I reached out and asked Fred Jones what he may know about your question. Here’s what he said:
“There was a Scotty’s back of where Cruncher’s Market was that is on Perry Street, I use to get hamburgers there when I was Police dispatcher for the ones in jail. The building was like a trailer and when they took it out Jim Cyrus has it I think to this day as his office and parts building on US 32 highway. I think that Judy Preece was the manager when it started.”
Maybe Teenie will have something on this question, too?
Some more from Fred.
“Mike, the City National Bank she is talking about with Scotty’s, That was all a hillside then she is thinking about Druthers’ Fast Food place.
Fred
Mr. Coburn, you never cease to amaze! I don’t remember any of the particular dining places you mention, not being from Louisa. However I do remember the style, the food and the atmosphere. I guess many small towns lived it in ‘the good days past’. The way you tell a story is not unlike time travel. I read all of them, and comment on few. This one is of particular interest to me, because I would like to ask a favor? I mentioned it in another of your tales about going to Huntington. There was a restaurant in LC, many years ago north of KY Power beside U S 23, on the south side. ( it was close to BC line…I think?) I could take you to the exact spot were I there. It ended when 23 was turned to 4 lane in that part, in the 60s. I would love to see a picture, and perhaps know the name? All I can recall is the exact location (in my mind), and their ham salad sandwich. More importantly, its the place my mom dad and little brother (all deceased ) stopped at in several trips from Michigan to Paintsville, and a few times on visits to the VA in Huntington with my mom or dad (both were veterans). This information would be good to pass on to my children, providing they care? I myself would love to see a picture. Perhaps you could wrap it in another interesting story? 🙂
Mike, the restaurant Charles is talking about was Newberry’s at the mouth of Blaine creek ran by John and Mae Newberry who also owned Rip’s for awhile, also Mae ran a restaurant in the Cypress Inn. Marie Bradley owned the Kentuckian at Meads Branch, the restaurant at Lomansville was Hendersons, formerly Chandler cabins. There was another restaurant between the two called Borders truck stop that served great graham cracker pies. There was a restaurant atop Hester Gap run by the Rice family for awhile. Effie.s, later Lula Bells was beside Rip’s and on down the Hamburger Inn. Nell’s was owned by our classmate (Carolyn Kelly Davis’ Mom).
Teenie, I am not all that familiar with the geographic details, but the place I’m talking about was one story, and north of the KY power plant, but was on the south side of 23, it would have closed in the mid 60s to the best of my recollection? I remember my mom either went to a window or perhaps she went in, I just don’t recall? Thank you for any help you can give on this. For me its just one of those memories that stick, and I have no one left to ask. Many may not think it important, but it is to me! Thank you.
I have some cousins from BC who might know (Wallace) . I’m thinking that’s Bear Creek that flows into the Big Sandy there. Blaine Creek comes out near the power plant, but While I was there when the new road opened, I made very few journey’s on the old river road because of mud, etc. When I visited cousins I took the old road through Fallsburg and doubled back from Catlettsburg to BC.
Mr. Coburn, the road I refer to was U. S. 23, 2 lane at that time (60s), past the power plant going in the direction of Catlettsburg, I think that was before I 64, as I recall I 75 was in the building process at that time? Only small sections of 23 were 4 lane in those days, and most outside KY. However I am not dead certain that the restaurant I speak of was in BC or LC?, I think it was LC. We took 23 to MI, from the early 60s, until our final return in 71, and while thinking about it, I think my restaurant was there in 71, so I could have my timeline off a bit? I know this, after 23 was turned to 4 lane past the power plant, the restaurant was gone. I remember there was no side road off 23 there, and perhaps the Highway Dept, wouldn’t put in a turn lane for north bound traffic, thus costing the place half its business? All I do know is the spot where it was is still there today, or was as of 2008, the last time I past! Any info would be helpful and I thank anyone who can help.
I believe he’s talking about the brick building that sold dog food for a while. The sell those buildings now and I don’t know what else. There’s also a brick house beside it that the restaurant owners lived in. I remember the restaurant very well. My husband enjoyed eating there and it got me out of cooking many meals. But I am sorry I do not remember the name and my husband is no longer alive or I’m sure he could give us the name.
Borders Truck Stop was owned and operated by my great aunt, Lurlie Borders, and my great uncle Charlie Borders. To this day, when older people ask where I’m from, and I say Ulysses, they will tell me about Border’s Truck Stop and the graham cracker pies. Especially retired truckers. She didn’t use a recipe, but used the same cooker and added ingredients to certain levels in that cooker. I have the recipe she estimated the ingredients she used, but it doesn’t taste like hers !
Anybody know the ladies pictured in the RIPs restaurant picture
Doris I cant reply directly to you, for whatever reason there’s no reply logo as yet? Its been so many years, I was also very young back then (my that has changed) :). What I remember most (actually the only thing), were ham salad sandwiches. I loved them then, and hate them today, perhaps they were better then, or my taste has changed? They came with a pickle, I think? I remember so little about the place, except you pulled off 23 south into the parking lot, there was no 23 north at the time other than the other lane that is. My mom and dad and little brother (who was blind) stopped there a good number of times over the sixties, (they are all dead now), so I guess that’s why I’m running people crazy (or perhaps myself), with this quest for information. As of 2008 nothing existed at that exact site no house no other business just an empty spot, and why I know so well where it was is a mystery to me? I am truly sorry for the loss of your husband, and thank you.
When the Wright brothers opened what became Dee’s, Chesley would hire me to pick up the trash from his parking lot and for pay, I got my choice of a quarter or a milk shake. I always took the shake. When Dee took over, he gave me the same deal but he provided me with a broom handle with a nail in the end so I could pick up paper without having to bend over. That was a small thing but I always thought Dee was successful because he was good at coming up with better ways to do things
I always thought the world of Dee he taught me how to tie a square not in my kerchuf of my navy uniform since he was a navy vet used to get a foot long hot dog and strawberry shake for 50 cents or that was what he charged me , barely remember the little house that was where Dees is before Dee built the first restraint there.